Release Date: November 05, 2024
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the GSE agency debt issuances and the terms involved? A: Matthew Brown, CFO, explained that they are negotiating a formal quote for $106 million in proceeds, involving eight communities. They are also exploring other lenders to maximize proceeds. Terms are similar to previous discussions, with a loan-to-value around 60% and interest rates between 6% to 6.5%.
Q: Given the cash reserves and incoming proceeds, is there a plan to start buying back some of the $975 million bonds? A: Matthew Brown, CFO, stated that while they are focused on advancing their financing strategy, they have adequate cash and may start chipping away at the bonds.
Q: Why has the SHOP NOI recovery been slower than expected, and what are the main cost drivers? A: Matthew Brown, CFO, noted that nonrecurring expenses, such as a fire-related insurance deductible and hurricane remediation costs, impacted results. Seasonal utility costs also contributed, but overall costs have moderated.
Q: Were there any significant property closures or damages due to recent hurricanes? A: Christopher Bilotto, CEO, mentioned one property was significantly impacted, requiring temporary resident relocation. There was also a fire event causing temporary move-outs, impacting results.
Q: What is the estimated value of the SHOP portfolio if liquidated today? A: Christopher Bilotto, CEO, indicated that stabilized assets in tertiary markets are valued at $150,000 per unit, while more challenged assets are valued at $50,000 to $60,000 per unit. The value of better communities in primary and secondary markets is expected to be higher.
Q: Can you explain the expected drop in SHOP NOI for Q4 and the occupancy outlook? A: Christopher Bilotto, CEO, confirmed the expected drop due to hurricane-related costs and insurance deductibles. Occupancy is expected to end the year just shy of 80% due to a softer selling season.
Q: What is the timeline for closing on the 29 communities with negative NOI? A: Christopher Bilotto, CEO, stated that transactions are expected to complete in early Q1 2025, with current market activities likely concluding thereafter.
Q: What caused the increase in wellness center NOI? A: Christopher Bilotto, CEO, explained that the increase was due to transitioning leases to Lifetime, with one lease commencing during the year.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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