Release Date: January 07, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Why is RPM guiding to flat sales and EBIT for the third quarter despite MAP benefits? A: Frank Sullivan, Chairman and CEO, explained that the outlook for Q3 is influenced by a return to a real winter, which is affecting sales and earnings. The company had record third quarters in the past two years due to mild weather, but the current winter conditions are impacting seasonal sales, particularly in the construction and consumer segments. RPM expects strong sales and earnings growth to return in the spring.
Q: Can you provide more color on the stabilization in residential markets for the consumer and specialty segments? A: Frank Sullivan noted that the stabilization is partly due to easier comparisons after a period of negative consumer takeaway. Housing turnover and home sales are showing signs of improvement, albeit in a choppy manner. The company is optimistic about a potential upswing in these markets, supported by new product introductions.
Q: Are you seeing a bifurcation in the consumer segment, with larger home centers performing better than smaller customers? A: Frank Sullivan acknowledged that over the past year, there has been a shift with stronger performance in dollar stores and discount chains compared to big box retailers. However, inventory adjustments at larger customers are mostly behind, and RPM expects a return to more traditional consumer takeaway across its customer base.
Q: What is the impact of the $4.4 million bad debt expense on the consumer segment's performance? A: Frank Sullivan clarified that the bad debt expense was not anticipated in the original guidance and was a late October event. It negatively impacted the consumer segment's EBIT performance, but without it, the segment would have shown better results.
Q: How is RPM planning to achieve its MAP 2025 savings target, and what are the expectations for fiscal 2026? A: Frank Sullivan stated that the MAP 2025 program is expected to reach $500 million in savings, with the full impact realized in fiscal 2026. The company is working on embedding MAP learnings into its culture and pivoting towards growth, with details on future strategic planning to be communicated in the fall.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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