Release Date: January 22, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How are you thinking about 2025 with the fixed-rate mortgage at 6.875%? Is it becoming more attractive? A: Robert McCormick, CEO: Optimism is returning to the real estate market. We are seeing more pre-approvals than in the past 18 months, suggesting a potential spring market. We are actively engaging with home shows and real estate brokers to capture purchase money mortgages. We are optimistic about both purchase money mortgages and non-trust refinances.
Q: With 100 basis points of cuts since September, why did the net interest margin (NIM) fall slightly? What is the current spot NIM? A: Michael Ozimek, CFO: We are repricing some CDs down, which helps. If the Fed continues cutting, it will affect the asset side. We are flattening out. Current CD rates are 4.15% for six and nine months, and 4% for 12 months.
Q: Equipment expense and outsourced services increased significantly. Is there anything unusual driving these increases? A: Michael Ozimek, CFO: We closed some locations and installed new ATMs, which increased equipment expenses. Outsourced services expenses hit in the fourth quarter, but we do not expect these levels to continue.
Q: What are you worried about regarding credit quality as you look forward to 2025 and 2026? A: Robert McCormick, CEO: We are not concerned about credit quality. We maintain a modest commercial portfolio and adhere to reasonable lending standards, so we are comfortable with our current position.
Q: Do you see opportunities to increase exposure in commercial real estate as other lenders pull back? A: Robert McCormick, CEO: Yes, we see opportunities to increase our commercial loan portfolio, potentially to $300 million or $325 million long-term. We prefer a slow and steady approach and will seize opportunities, especially in 2026 and 2027.
Q: Can you elaborate on the cannabis opportunity? Is it confined to certain states? A: Robert McCormick, CEO: We are open in all states within our market, but Florida is still medical only. Most activity is in New York and Massachusetts. We are focusing on banking small retail operators on the deposit side.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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