Release Date: April 28, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What are you hearing from customers regarding the recent executive orders and potential coal plant retirement delays? A: Joseph Craft, Chairman, President, and CEO, mentioned that most utilities they serve are taking advantage of the two-year extension for coal plant operations. The demand for electricity, especially for data centers, is real, and utilities are assessing how quickly they can bring electricity online. The executive orders aim to ensure coal fleets remain operational, but there is no expectation of increased investments to bring more coal online. Utilities are encouraged to invest in existing coal fleets to operate at higher capacity factors.
Q: How are trade policy uncertainties impacting ARLP's business, and how do you plan to mitigate potential challenges? A: Joseph Craft explained that the main impacts factored into their guidance are tariff increases on steel and aluminum, and monitoring copper prices. While mining is on the lower end of impact, the general economic impact could affect future demand. The administration is responsive to industry concerns, and the intent is not to negatively impact the energy sector with trade policies.
Q: How confident are you in achieving the full-year cost per ton guidance for the Appalachian segment? A: Joseph Craft stated confidence in achieving the cost guidance, with improvements expected in the second half of the year as they move into better mining conditions. The second half of 2025 should see costs aligning with guidance, and 2026 is expected to have more stability, potentially maintaining margins despite lower sales prices.
Q: How is the current environment influencing your capital allocation, particularly for 2026? A: Joseph Craft mentioned that current guidance is driven by maintenance capital for coal operations. They are evaluating opportunities in data center infrastructure and remain committed to growth in oil and gas minerals. However, lower oil prices have affected seller expectations, limiting capital allocation unless market conditions change.
Q: What are your thoughts on current capacity levels given strong volumes and commitments? A: Cary Marshall, CFO, noted that current capacity levels are factored into their 2025 guidance. There may be additional capacity available, especially in 2026, with improved conditions at Tunnel Ridge and potential growth at River View. They are not accounting for weekend production, which could provide additional capacity.
Q: Do you expect coal inventory levels to be rectified with a catch-up buying spree or a normalization of buying patterns? A: Joseph Craft believes utilities are not looking to build inventories but rather maintain current levels. The favorable natural gas curve supports continued coal demand, and utilities are focused on meeting demand for 2025 and building contracts for 2026 and beyond.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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