Release Date: May 01, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

• Consolidated operating profit increased over 60%, driven by significant improvements in the coal mining segment.
• The coal mining segment's adjusted EBITDA more than tripled due to higher pricing and increased customer demand.
• Mitigation resources reported its second consecutive quarter of profitability and anticipates generating profit for the full year.
• The Thacker Pass lithium project, where NACCO is the exclusive contract miner, is progressing with a final investment decision announced by Lithium Americas and General Motors.
• Minerals management segment adjusted EBITDA increased by 10% over the prior year, driven by strategic investments in oil and natural gas assets.

Negative Points

• North American mining segment experienced reduced customer demand, leading to a decrease in operating profit.
• Mississippi Lignite Mining Company faced inefficiencies due to operating with only one boiler for part of 2024, impacting cost structures.
• An anticipated reduction in the 2025 contractually determined per ton sales price is expected to offset improvements in the coal mining segment.
• A significant non-cash settlement charge is anticipated upon the termination of the defined benefit pension plan, which will decrease net income.
• The mitigation resources business is expected to continue experiencing lumpy earnings due to the nature of credit releases and sales.

Q & A Highlights

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Q: Can you explain the recurring inventory charges at Mississippi Lignite Mining Company? A: JC Butler, President and CEO, explained that the inventory impairment is due to the cost of coal on the pile compared to the sales price. Last year was inefficient due to operating with reduced costs, leading to high-cost coal in inventory. Additionally, the pricing formula, based on indices from five years ago, is causing unusual price movements. This situation is expected to normalize as operating costs stabilize and the pricing formula adjusts.

Q: What are the implications of a more favorable regulatory environment for NACCO? A: JC Butler noted that the current administration is focused on developing U.S. resources, including coal, oil, and natural gas. Recent executive orders aim to ensure grid stability, designate coal as a critical mineral, and remove regulatory biases against fossil fuels. These actions are expected to support the coal industry and NACCO's operations.

Q: Is there any seasonality in North American Mining's operations? A: JC Butler stated that there is not much seasonality due to the majority of operations being in southern states like Florida. However, occasional disruptions can occur due to hurricanes. The first quarter saw some one-off situations and modest declines in customer demand, but these are not typical seasonal patterns.

Q: Can you provide more details on the mitigation resources business and its growth? A: JC Butler explained that the mitigation resources business is inherently lumpy due to the nature of credit releases over time. As the business scales with more mitigation banks and reclamation projects, earnings will smooth out. The business is growing rapidly, and while specific metrics are challenging to define, the trajectory is positive.

Q: What progress has been made on solar initiatives? A: JC Butler mentioned that NACCO's Regen Resources is exploring solar projects, including solar with backup solutions. There is uncertainty regarding tax credits, but the company is optimistic about ongoing projects. Opportunities exist for behind-the-meter solutions, leveraging NACCO's land and energy expertise.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.