• Net Income: $74 million.
• Return on Equity (ROE): Approximately 11%.
• Adjusted Return on Equity: About 17%.
• Specialty P&C Underlying Combined Ratio: 91.3%.
• Sequential Quarter PIF Growth: Mid-single digits.
• Share Repurchase: $25 million in shares repurchased this quarter.
• Debt Retirement Plan: Plan to retire $450 million of debt due in February.
• Catastrophe Losses: Approximately $16 million for the third quarter.
• Net Investment Income: $111 million.
• Pretax Equivalent Annualized Book Yield: 4.8%.
• Parent Company Liquidity: Approximately $1.3 billion.
• Adjusted Consolidated Net Operating Income: $105 million or $1.62 per diluted share.
• Debt-to-Capital Ratio Target: Approximately 25% by the end of Q1 2025.

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Release Date: October 30, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

• Kemper Corp (NYSE:KMPR) reported strong financial results for the third quarter, with a net income of $74 million and a return on equity of approximately 11%.
• The specialty auto business showed significant growth, with a sequential quarter policy-in-force (PIF) growth in the mid-single digits and an underlying combined ratio of 91.3%.
• The Life business segment continued to deliver stable operating results, contributing to strong return on capital and distributable cash flows.
• Kemper Corp (NYSE:KMPR) repurchased $25 million in shares during the quarter and plans to fully retire $450 million of debt due in February, strengthening its balance sheet.
• The company maintained a healthy liquidity position with approximately $1.3 billion in parent company liquidity, providing flexibility for future growth and capital returns.

Negative Points

• Kemper Corp (NYSE:KMPR) anticipates a modest increase in the combined ratio over the next three to five quarters as it grows, potentially impacting profitability.
• The company is still in the process of rebalancing its production, with growth in some states like Texas lagging behind expectations.
• Despite strong results, the company faces ongoing challenges from recent catastrophes, with total catastrophe losses for the third quarter amounting to approximately $16 million.
• The commercial auto business, while profitable, faces potential volatility due to its specialized nature and exposure to market dynamics.
• Kemper Corp (NYSE:KMPR) is experiencing a hard market environment, which, while beneficial for growth, also presents challenges in terms of pricing and competition.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Can you provide more details on the hard market conditions and growth expectations in states like California, Florida, and Texas? A: Joseph Lacher, CEO, explained that the hard market is characterized by reduced supply and increased consumer shopping behavior. California is experiencing faster growth due to less supply, while Florida and Texas are returning to normal competitive dynamics. Matt Hunton, President of Kemper Auto, added that growth is prioritized based on impact, pricing confidence, and market support, with expectations for accelerated growth in Texas and smaller states.

Q: Why is Kemper retiring $450 million of debt, and how does this align with growth plans? A: Bradley Camden, CFO, stated that the debt will be retired using holdco cash and investments, with sufficient capital for future growth. The decision reduces expensive capital and improves the debt-to-capital ratio. Earnings will also fund growth, reflecting confidence in profitable expansion.

Q: What is the expected trajectory for the combined ratio, given the current performance? A: Joseph Lacher, CEO, noted that the current combined ratio benefits from excess rate over inflation and reduced new business penalties. Over the next 4-5 quarters, the ratio is expected to migrate to the 93%-95% range, similar to pre-pandemic levels, as new business normalizes.

Q: How is the commercial auto segment performing, and what are the growth prospects? A: Matt Hunton, President of Kemper Auto, highlighted that commercial auto is highly specialized and consistently profitable. The segment is expected to continue growing, leveraging competitive advantages and a focus on target customer segments, avoiding high-risk areas like heavy liability and transportation.

Q: What are the current trends in investment income, and how might they change? A: Bradley Camden, CFO, indicated that investment income is expected to remain stable, around $105-$107 million per quarter, with potential optimizations in the portfolio. The focus is on maintaining a consistent performance, despite cash flow changes from debt retirement and earnings improvements.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.