Release Date: February 26, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you discuss the accelerated decline in license revenue for CCH Tagetik and your confidence in bringing CP&E growth back to high single-digit or low double-digit growth? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, explained that the decline in license revenue was due to an unexpected drop in December. However, the company is confident in improving growth as cloud solutions now represent 60% of divisional revenues, and the market remains attractive for Tagetik with continued upselling and new customer acquisitions.
Q: What is the outlook for Clinical Solutions in terms of market penetration and growth, both in the US and internationally? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, stated that there is still growth potential in the US, with about 60% penetration in hospitals and healthcare organizations. Internationally, there is significant room for growth, particularly outside Western Europe and North America, in regions like South America, Asia, and the Middle East.
Q: How are you structuring revenue breakeven points on subscription and cloud contracts for Tagetik compared to license and maintenance? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, mentioned that the focus is on growing SaaS, which has been increasing between 18% and 20%. The company is moving towards cloud solutions, and as cloud adoption continues, license revenues will become less of a drag on the division.
Q: Can you provide more detail on the expected slowdown in Financial and Corporate Compliance (F&CC) growth? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, explained that the slowdown is due to the EUR10 million boost from BOI in 2024, which is not expected to recur at the same level in 2025. Additionally, while transactional revenues have rebounded, they are not expected to increase significantly due to stable interest rates affecting mortgage and lien volumes.
Q: What are the strategic plans for acquisitions, and can we expect increased M&A activity? A: Kevin Entricken, CFO, stated that acquisitions will focus on building out core positions and close adjacencies. The company will continue to look for opportunities that complement its business, with a strategy to build, buy, or partner. The strong balance sheet allows for potential acquisitions if the right opportunities arise.
Q: How is the introduction of GenAI-enabled features impacting customer adoption and pricing? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, noted that it's still early to quantify the impact, but GenAI features are supporting retention and price increases. In some cases, they allow for upselling, and in others, they create entirely new revenue streams. Customer feedback has been positive, particularly for products that enhance productivity.
Q: What is the impact of the NIH funding cuts on the Health division, particularly in medical journals? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, mentioned that the impact is still unclear as the funding situation is not yet resolved. If changes occur, they might affect library budgets at academic institutions, but there has been no significant impact on the business so far.
Q: Can you discuss the competitive landscape in the US tax segment, especially with Thomson Reuters and Intuit? A: Nancy McKinstry, CEO, stated that Wolters Kluwer continues to perform well in the professional tax market, largely due to its full cloud suite in North America. While Thomson Reuters has seen growth in areas where Wolters Kluwer does not operate, the company remains competitive in its core markets.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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