Release Date: March 05, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How did Q4 trends evolve, and what is the outlook for Q1 2025? A: Hans Kooijmans, CFO, noted that the second half of the year showed improvement compared to the first half, with the Americas performing strongly despite a tougher environment in EMEA. Valerie Diele-Braun, CEO, mentioned that while there has been continuous growth, geopolitical uncertainties make it difficult to predict long-term trends. The order book for Q1 2025 is strong, but visibility remains limited to about six weeks.
Q: Can you clarify the group's organic gross profit and EBITDA growth for Q4? A: Hans Kooijmans, CFO, stated that organic top-line growth was around 2-3%, with EBITDA growth similar to the third quarter at about 5%. He emphasized the importance of focusing on longer-term trends rather than quarterly fluctuations.
Q: What are the current pricing dynamics, particularly in China and the M&A focus for 2025? A: Valerie Diele-Braun, CEO, indicated that pricing has stabilized with no major pressures. In China, the market remains weak with mixed data points, particularly in personal care. For M&A, the focus remains on both life sciences and industrials, with opportunities in both areas.
Q: Why was there a EUR300 million equity raise in December without an accompanying deal announcement? A: Hans Kooijmans, CFO, explained that the equity raise was preemptive to maintain leverage thresholds amidst a volatile market. The decision was strategic to ensure financial flexibility for future M&A opportunities.
Q: How are customer buying patterns evolving, and what is the impact on working capital? A: Valerie Diele-Braun, CEO, noted that while some larger orders are returning, buying patterns have not fully normalized. Hans Kooijmans, CFO, added that the increase in working capital is mainly due to higher order levels and M&A activities, with no significant changes in payment terms.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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