Release Date: May 01, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you confirm if the volume decline is primarily due to affordability issues rather than other factors? A: Michael P. Doss, President and CEO, explained that affordability is a key factor. The company initially expected a 3% volume growth based on customer feedback but ended up with flat volumes. The current guidance reflects a 2% volume decline, outperforming customer expectations of a 3-4% decline. The company is focusing on cash flow management and running the business to demand to address these challenges.
Q: What is the embedded assumption for when price costs will turn neutral to positive in 2025? A: Stephen R. Scherger, CFO, stated that the company expects to flip to positive pricing late in 2025 and recover inflation as they roll into 2026. They are executing on $100 million of price actions across various fronts to address inflation.
Q: Are there any footprint actions needed due to the volume decline, and how is the supply-demand balance in your grades? A: Michael P. Doss mentioned that the company will take rolling market-related downtime to match supply with demand. Recent competitor mill closures and the company's own closures will help maintain a balanced supply-demand environment, particularly in the coated recycled paperboard market.
Q: How does the revised guidance reflect on EBITDA margins, and what is the path to return to previous margin levels? A: Stephen R. Scherger explained that the midpoint of the guidance reflects an 18% EBITDA margin, with temporary inflation impacts expected to be recovered. The Waco project is expected to contribute $160 million in EBITDA over the next two years, helping return margins to the 19-21% range.
Q: What are the startup costs associated with the Waco project, and how are they accounted for in the guidance? A: Stephen R. Scherger noted that the Waco project has startup costs of $65-75 million, mostly below the line, and these are included in the cash flow expectations for the year. The $1.5 billion EBITDA guidance includes these startup costs.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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