• Revenue: $585 million in the first quarter.
• GAAP Earnings Per Share (EPS): $0.29 for the first quarter.
• Adjusted Return on Equity: 14.2% over the last 12 months.
• Lease Fleet Utilization: 96.8%.
• Future Lease Rate Differential (FLRD): 17.9%.
• Renewal Lease Rates: 29.5% above expiring rates.
• Lease Portfolio Sales: $34 million completed with $6 million in gains.
• Net Lease Fleet Investment: $87 million for the quarter.
• Railcar Deliveries: 3,060 new railcars delivered in the quarter.
• Rail Products Group Operating Margin: 6.2% for the quarter.
• Cash from Operations: $78 million for the quarter.
• Liquidity: $920 million available.
• Full-Year EPS Guidance: $1.40 to $1.60 per share.

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Release Date: May 01, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

• Trinity Industries Inc (NYSE:TRN) achieved a significant safety milestone at its Jonesboro Maintenance facility, marking five years without a lost time incident.
• Despite a 38% decrease in external deliveries year over year, Trinity Industries Inc (NYSE:TRN) managed to limit the EPS decline to only 12%, showcasing the resilience of its platform.
• The company's lease fleet utilization remains high at 96.8%, with a favorable future lease rate differential of 17.9%, indicating strong demand for its railcars.
• Trinity Industries Inc (NYSE:TRN) reported a 29.5% increase in renewal lease rates over expiring rates, demonstrating strong pricing power in its leasing segment.
• The company maintains a strong liquidity position with $920 million available, providing flexibility in an uncertain market environment.

Negative Points

• Trinity Industries Inc (NYSE:TRN) experienced a slowdown in order conversions due to market uncertainty, impacting its short-term performance.
• The Rail Products Group's operating margin decreased to 6.2%, affected by lower deliveries and costs associated with workforce rationalization.
• The company lowered its full-year industry delivery guidance to 28,000 to 33,000 railcars, reflecting slower-than-expected order conversions.
• Weather-related disruptions impacted the maintenance business in the first quarter, contributing to lower external repair volumes.
• Trinity Industries Inc (NYSE:TRN) faces margin compression in its Rail Products Group due to competitive pricing pressures in a lower volume environment.

Q & A Highlights

Q: The FLRD measure is still quite high but has come down from previous quarters. Could you help us understand the changes in expiring lease rate comps and spot lease rates? Also, is there a difference between tank and freight? A: The FLRD is affected by the mix of car types coming up for renewal. The renewal rate versus expiring rate in the quarter was 29.5%. The average lease rate is up both sequentially and year over year. The difference between the 29.5% and the 17.9% FLRD is due to the car types expiring and being renewed in the quarter versus those coming up in the next 12 months.

Q: Can you explain the expected cadence for deliveries, margins, and earnings, particularly why the second quarter might be the weakest? A: Leasing performance is expected to improve due to renewals and fleet growth. Gains on car sales are backend weighted for the year. Rail group deliveries are expected to be lower in the second quarter relative to the rest of the year, contributing to the second quarter being lower with improvements expected thereafter.

Q: How have customer conversations developed, and what leads you to believe inquiries will turn into orders? A: Inquiry levels were the highest in several years, and we are finalizing several orders worth approximately $100 million. The delays are more pronounced in freight than in tank cars.

Q: If industry deliveries are closer to 28,000 this year, how should we think about margins for Trinity? A: Volume is the biggest driver of changes in operating margin. If deliveries are at the lower end, margins might be closer to 5%, and if at the higher end, closer to 6%.

Q: Can you discuss the decision to go with a term loan instead of an ABS structure and any impact on interest expense? A: We closed a $1.1 billion bank term financing to refinance a maturing term loan. The bank term market was chosen due to the capital being repaid. The spreads were attractive, and while the ABS market remains attractive, we took advantage of the bank's appetite for funded loans. The spread is lower, but leverage increases slightly, with no material change in trend line.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.