Release Date: February 06, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What are your thoughts on the Medicaid reimbursement backdrop and potential risks under the new administration? A: Barry Port, CEO, stated that while it's uncertain what will become a legislative priority, Ensign Group is prepared to educate Congress on Medicaid impacts. The company is not aware of any specific programs at risk and believes broad-based Medicaid cuts would be challenging for Congress. Suzanne Snapper, CFO, added that typically under Republican control, there are lighter regulations, which could offer some operational flexibility.
Q: Can you provide insights into the Tennessee market following your recent acquisitions there? A: Suzanne Snapper, CFO, explained that while Tennessee hospitals receive significant reimbursements, the supplemental amounts for Ensign's operations are less. The company is working with local legislation to continue support for skilled nursing. Ensign has established strong relationships in Tennessee, which will aid in networking and growth.
Q: What are the expectations for quarterly EPS seasonality and occupancy in 2025? A: Suzanne Snapper, CFO, noted that historically, Q4 and Q1 have been strong quarters for occupancy and skilled mix. The company expects this trend to continue in 2025, with Q1 typically being the strongest quarter.
Q: What are the current trends in labor costs, and how might the California Workforce Standards program impact you? A: Spencer Burton, COO, mentioned gradual improvements in the labor market, with stabilization since COVID. The company focuses on attracting and retaining top talent. Suzanne Snapper, CFO, confirmed that the California Workforce Standards program is factored into the 2025 guidance.
Q: How is the deal pipeline looking, and are there any changes in acquisition terms? A: Chad Keetch, CIO, reported a strong deal flow with many opportunities. The company remains selective, ensuring leaders are ready for transitions and maintaining disciplined growth. Ensign focuses on sustainable pricing and balance sheet health, allowing them to win desired deals.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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