Release Date: February 12, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you explain the sharp quarter-on-quarter decline in insurance income for Q4 and the main drivers for future growth in this line? A: Insurance income in Q4 was satisfactory but not at full potential. The decline was due to the reversal of some loss components from previous quarters. Future growth will be driven by strong performance in Vera Vita traditional products and hybrid products sold through our Irish-based factory. The current rate environment is conducive to further improvement in insurance results.
Q: Regarding your distribution targets, will the potential additional EUR1 billion distribution be in the form of buybacks? A: The additional EUR1 billion distribution is contingent on obtaining the Danish Compromise. If approved, it will likely be distributed as a share buyback.
Q: What are the reasons for the expected decline in NII in 2026 compared to 2025? A: The decline in NII for 2026 is due to the full impact of rate reductions, with Euribor stabilizing at 200 basis points. The effect of pure sensitivity will be more pronounced in 2026, with managerial actions fully deployed by 2027.
Q: Can you provide more details on the Danish Compromise and its impact if not applied to the Anima acquisition? A: Without the Danish Compromise, the acquisition of Anima would cost around 250 basis points. We are committed to proceeding with the Anima offer and believe the Danish Compromise will eventually be applicable, as indicated by EBA guidelines.
Q: How do you foresee the evolution of fee margins and market performance in your AuM growth forecast? A: We expect stable management fee margins over the plan period, with a market performance assumption of 2.5% on average.
Q: What are the expected impacts of the regulatory headwinds, specifically Basel IV, on your capital? A: The regulatory headwinds are primarily due to Basel IV, with a phased impact of 7 basis points per year. This will continue for three years beyond the plan's end.
Q: Can you clarify the timing of the positive impacts from DTAs and OCI in your capital waterfall? A: In 2025, we expect a 44 basis point impact from DTAs, with a total of 50 basis points including OCI. A similar pace is expected in 2026, with a reduced impact in 2027 as we exhaust potential.
Q: How does the amendment of the Anima offer consideration affect UniCredit's offer for Banco BPM? A: The amendment allows UniCredit to terminate their offer, but their future actions are uncertain. They need to consider our plan's potential and the cost of a successful offer.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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