Release Date: February 14, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Is your expectation for 2025 that the title results will be similar to 2024, and was there anything unusual in title this quarter? A: Mark Casale, CEO: For 2025, I expect more of the same for title results. We have a cost structure in place, and while we are carrying capacity for a large lender, rates have not come down as expected. The fourth quarter saw an excess provision due to some cleanup from the underwriter we acquired.
Q: Regarding the hurricane-related defaults, were the 2,219 defaults in the inventory at quarter-end, or had some cured by then? A: Mark Casale, CEO: They were in the inventory at quarter-end. Most of the increase in defaults was due to the hurricane, and without them, the default rate would be closer to 2%.
Q: Can you explain why new notices were down sequentially despite typical seasonality? A: David Weinstock, CFO: There are ebbs and flows to default patterns. Overall, 2024's default pattern was favorable compared to historical quarters, and the fourth quarter continued this trend.
Q: How do you monitor whether borrowers are insured, and how do you consider insurance affordability in pricing risk? A: Mark Casale, CEO: Borrowers with a mortgage are required to have homeowners insurance, and if dropped, they get forced placed. We are not on the hook until the home is repaired, which provides a layer of protection. While insurance costs are rising, especially in high-cost areas, our exposure is limited.
Q: How are you thinking about the pacing of capital return versus opportunities to deploy capital? A: Mark Casale, CEO: Given the pause in growth and strong capital levels, we see an opportunity to return capital and become more capital efficient. We are confident in credit quality and have a strong PMIERs cushion, allowing us to focus on capital return while maintaining strategic growth options.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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