Release Date: February 14, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you provide more details on the revised spares guidance and what has changed from the previous outlook? A: Olivier Andries, CEO: We have slightly revised our guidance for spare parts, increasing the volume of shop visits and engine inductions. However, our assumptions regarding scope and pricing remain unchanged.
Q: Given the strong cash flow performance in 2024, how does this affect your long-term free cash flow guidance? A: Pascal Bantegnie, CFO: We exceeded our expectations for free cash flow in 2024 and have raised our 2025 guidance. While our cumulative cash guidance of EUR15 billion to EUR17 billion may seem conservative, we prefer to proceed cautiously due to various moving parts, such as LEAP engine deliveries and supply chain constraints.
Q: Can you discuss the pricing dynamics for OE engines and the breakeven point for the LEAP engine? A: Pascal Bantegnie, CFO: We see slight improvements in OE engine pricing over time, but nothing significant for EBIT performance. The engines delivered in 2025 are based on contracts signed years ago, and the spare engine ratio is in the low teens.
Q: What are your expectations for high-thrust engine OE and aftermarket revenue growth in 2025? A: Olivier Andries, CEO: The dynamics for high-thrust engines are strong, contributing to our raised guidance for spare parts in 2025. We expect robust growth in this segment.
Q: How are supply chain constraints affecting LEAP or CFM56 spare parts, and what is the expected cadence of LEAP deliveries in 2025? A: Olivier Andries, CEO: Supply chain issues are improving but still present. We expect to deliver 15% to 20% more LEAP engines in 2025 compared to 2024, but we won't provide quarterly guidance for the ramp-up.
Q: Can you explain the discrepancy between Safran's civil aftermarket growth and GE's performance in commercial services? A: Olivier Andries, CEO: Our spare parts indicator mainly covers CFM56, while GE's includes both narrow-body and wide-body engines. Differences in accounting rules and exposure to services also contribute to the discrepancy.
Q: What is the timeline for profitability in the seats segment, and how does this relate to the revenue and profit guidance for 2025? A: Olivier Andries, CEO: We aim to improve Aircraft Interiors' profitability to double digits by 2028, starting from breakeven in 2024. For 2025, we expect increased EBIT margins and improved cash performance.
Q: How will the recognition of LEAP aftermarket profit in 2025 impact propulsion margins? A: Pascal Bantegnie, CFO: The introduction of the new HPT blade allows us to start recognizing profits on LEAP-1A RPFH contracts, but this will not materially impact the overall EBIT guidance or propulsion margins.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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