OC Oerlikon Corp AG, Pfaffikon (OERLF) Full Year 2024 Earnings Call Highlights: Navigating ...

GuruFocus.com
19 Feb
  • Orders: CHF2.4 billion, stable year over year when adjusted for FX.
  • Sales: CHF2.4 billion, a decrease of 9% at constant exchange rates.
  • Operational EBITA: CHF393 million, with a margin of 16.6%.
  • Surface Solutions Sales: CHF1.5 billion, stable organically.
  • Polymer Processing Solutions Orders: CHF896 million, a 2% decrease at constant FX.
  • Polymer Processing Solutions Sales: CHF875 million, down 23% at constant FX.
  • Operating Free Cash Flow: CHF162 million, more than doubled year over year.
  • Return on Capital Employed (ROCE): 5.8% operational, 5.1% reported.
  • Net Debt to EBITDA Ratio: 2.8 times.
  • Cash Access: CHF920 million at the end of 2024.
  • Dividend Proposal: 20 rape per share, stable year over year.
  • 2025 Sales Guidance: Stable or low single-digit growth at constant FX.
  • 2025 Group Operational EBITDA Margin Guidance: Approximately 15.5%.
  • Surface Solutions 2025 EBITDA Margin Guidance: 18.5% to 19%.
  • Barmak Man-Made Fibers 2025 EBITDA Margin Guidance: Approximately 7.5%.
  • Warning! GuruFocus has detected 8 Warning Signs with OERLF.

Release Date: February 18, 2025

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • OC Oerlikon Corp AG, Pfaffikon (OERLF) achieved an operational EBITA margin of 16.6% in 2024, representing a year-over-year increase despite lower sales.
  • The company successfully reached break-even in its additive manufacturing business in the fourth quarter of 2024.
  • OC Oerlikon Corp AG, Pfaffikon (OERLF) has reduced overhead expenses by 33% since 2019, demonstrating effective cost management.
  • The company has a strong global presence with operations in 37 countries and 110 service centers, enhancing its market reach.
  • OC Oerlikon Corp AG, Pfaffikon (OERLF) is focusing on sustainability, with over 80% of R&D spending directed towards sustainable products, and is recognized as a leader in sustainability within the industrial sector.

Negative Points

  • 2024 sales decreased by 9% at constant exchange rates, indicating challenges in maintaining revenue growth.
  • The polymer processing solutions division experienced a 23% decline in sales at constant exchange rates, reflecting market difficulties.
  • The company's return on capital employed (ROCE) is currently depressed at 5.8% operationally, impacted by the filament downturn.
  • OC Oerlikon Corp AG, Pfaffikon (OERLF) faces challenges in the automotive, tooling, and luxury markets, which have shown lower organic sales.
  • The company's net debt to EBITDA ratio increased to 2.8 times, indicating a higher leverage compared to the previous year.

Q & A Highlights

Q: What drove the increase in gross margin for 2024, and how is the return on capital employed developing in the surface solutions business? A: Markus Richter, CFO, explained that the gross margin increase was due to reclassification of numbers. The return on capital employed is currently at 5.1% reported and 5.8% operational, with a slight improvement to 6.1% in the surface solutions business.

Q: Are there any plans for management changes following the spinoff or sale of Barmag, and who might be the successor as CEO? A: Michael Suess, Executive Chairman, stated that he plans to step down from the executive chair role after the transition is complete, likely by AGM 2027. A potential successor has been identified, but performance over the next two years will be a determining factor.

Q: What factors could influence the surface solutions margin guidance of 18.5% to 19% for 2025? A: Michael Suess noted that the margin will depend on market performance, business mix, and pricing power. The company is aiming for slight improvements, but significant market changes could impact the outcome.

Q: How is the company addressing the debt maturity profile and refinancing plans? A: Markus Richter mentioned that refinancing discussions are underway, with plans to address debt through sales proceeds and operational cash flow. The company has a revolving credit line and strong cash performance, ensuring no liquidity issues.

Q: What measures are being taken to stabilize pricing in the polymer business, and how is the market recovery expected to impact this? A: Michael Suess highlighted that workforce reductions and supply base optimization are key measures. The company expects market recovery to improve pricing power, with new technologies being introduced to support this.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

This article first appeared on GuruFocus.

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