Release Date: April 29, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: With the current market volatility, do you think private lending will offer similar or lower pricing than banks, and how does this impact your competitive position? A: Kort Schnabel, Co-President, noted that spreads have already started to widen in the last four weeks due to market volatility. Historically, private lending has adjusted to market conditions, and Ares Capital's diverse sourcing capabilities allow it to remain competitive despite these changes.
Q: Can you elaborate on the potential impact of tariffs on your portfolio companies? A: Scott Lem, CFO, explained that they conducted a thorough analysis to identify companies importing from high-tariff countries. Currently, there's a mid-single-digit exposure in the portfolio. However, this is an exposure analysis, not an impact analysis, as companies may mitigate these effects through pricing adjustments or supply chain changes.
Q: Given the slowdown in private equity and M&A deal volume, how do you plan to manage earnings against rising liability costs? A: Kipp deVeer, CEO, stated that while deal flow might slow, Ares Capital has multiple ways to source transactions, such as refinancing and non-sponsored deals. The company has historically maintained a consistent ROE and has levers like low leverage and spillover income to manage earnings.
Q: Are you seeing more attractive opportunities in larger-sized upper market segments due to current volatility? A: Scott Lem confirmed that they are seeing more opportunities in larger deals, similar to trends observed in 2022 and 2023. Ares Capital's broad sourcing network allows it to pivot and capitalize on attractive opportunities across different market segments.
Q: How does Ares Capital plan to respond quickly to potential tariff impacts on portfolio companies? A: Kipp deVeer explained that they proactively engage with potentially affected companies to assess liquidity and funding needs. If necessary, Ares Capital may offer to PIK interest temporarily in exchange for equity contributions from private equity partners, similar to strategies used during COVID.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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