Release Date: May 01, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How is Janus Henderson managing the liquidity of its CLO ETF franchise, especially during market stress? A: Ali Dibadj, CEO, explained that the CLO ETF franchise has been successful, with year-to-date positive flows of $3 billion, representing 80% of the market share. The investors are mostly medium- to long-term, and despite market volatility, the redemptions have been absorbed as expected, with no dislocations or surprises.
Q: What are the next steps for improving results in the institutional channel? A: Ali Dibadj, CEO, noted that the institutional channel has seen consecutive quarters of positive flows, with a growing pipeline. The company is seeing increased RFP activity and consultant support, and is focusing on broad-based interest in products like emerging market debt, tech, healthcare, and small-cap equities.
Q: What are the growth opportunities with the Guardian partnership? A: Ali Dibadj, CEO, highlighted that the partnership with Guardian, a top 15 unaffiliated insurance asset manager, offers growth potential in insurance relationships and institutional clients. The partnership includes a $400 million seed capital opportunity and collaboration with Guardian's broker-dealer, Park Avenue Securities, to develop investment solutions.
Q: What is Janus Henderson's approach to M&A in the current market environment? A: Ali Dibadj, CEO, stated that the M&A environment is very active, with significant interest in partnerships. The company remains disciplined, focusing on client-led and market-led opportunities, and is seen as a safe harbor in tumultuous times. The bid/ask spread has narrowed, but there is no capitulation yet.
Q: What is the expected flow trajectory for the $45 billion AUM from the Guardian partnership? A: Ali Dibadj, CEO, expects growth in the $45 billion AUM, given Guardian's successful history and alignment with Janus Henderson's growth objectives. The partnership is seen as a strong foundation for further growth in the insurance client business.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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